Here's Why Herd Immunity Won't Save Us From The COVID-19 Pandemic

https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic

Here's Why Herd Immunity Won't Save Us From The COVID-19 Pandemic

GIDEON MEYEROWITZ-KATZ
30 MARCH 2020
It's hard to predict things in a pandemic. The situation changes so much on a daily basis that everything you thought you knew last week is wrong by the end of the day. Things are changing so fast that even the solid certainties that we thought we were sure of – the reproductive rate, the symptoms of the infection, the key to making a good quarantine – are suspect and need to be re-evaluated.
But among all this uncertainty, I can say for sure that there is one thing that I would never have seen coming: the discussion about herd immunity. It is so out of the blue that the first time a journalist asked my opinion on whether it was effective for the coronavirus, I literally laughed out loud because I assumed they were joking.
And yet, here we are. Countless articles and think-pieces on the COVID-19 virus are making the argument that, albeit potentially risky, achieving herd immunity could be one response to our crisis. Many of them frame herd immunity as a preventive strategy that may stall the tidal wave of disease so many are predicting.
All of this is simply nonsense. Herd immunity without a vaccine is by definition not a preventative measure.
Let me explain.
Herd immunity is an epidemiological concept that describes the state where a population – usually of people – is sufficiently immune to a disease that the infection will not spread within that group. In other words, enough people can't get the disease – either through vaccination or natural immunity – that the people who are vulnerable are protected.
For example, let's think about mumps. Mumps is a very infectious disease that, while relatively benign, is very uncomfortable and sometimes causes nasty life-long complications. It's also vaccine-preventable, with a highly effective vaccine that has made the disease incredibly rare in the modern age.
Mumps has a basic reproductive rate (R0) of 10-12, which means that in a population which is entirely susceptible – meaning no one is immune to the virus – every person who is infected will pass the disease on to 10-12 people.
This means that without vaccination roughly 95 percent of the population gets infected over time. But even with something that is this infectious, there are still some people – 5 percent of the population – who don't get sick, because once everyone else is immune there's no one to catch the disease from.
We can increase that number by vaccinating, because vaccination makes people immune to infection, but it also stops infected people passing on the disease to everyone that they otherwise would. If we can get enough people immune to the disease, then it will stop spreading in the population.
And that's herd immunity, in a nutshell.
For mumps, you need 92 percent of the population to be immune for the disease to stop spreading entirely. This is what's known as the herd immunity threshold. COVID-19 is, fortunately, much less infectious than mumps, with an estimated R0 of roughly 3.
With this number, the proportion of people who need to be infected is lower but still high, sitting at around 70 percent of the entire population.
Which brings us to why herd immunity could never be considered a preventative measure.
If 70 percent of your population is infected with a disease, it is by definition not prevention. How can it be? Most of the people in your country are sick! And the hopeful nonsense that you can reach that 70 percent by just infecting young people is simply absurd. If only young people are immune, you'd have clusters of older people with no immunity at all, making it incredibly risky for anyone over a certain age to leave their house lest they get infected, forever.
It's also worth thinking about the repercussions of this disastrous scenario – the best estimates put COVID-19 infection fatality rate at around 0.5-1 percent. If 70 percent of an entire population gets sick, that means that between 0.35-0.7 percent of everyone in a country could die, which is a catastrophic outcome.
With something like 10 percent of all infections needing to be hospitalised, you'd also see an enormous number of people very sick, which has huge implications for the country as well.
The sad fact is that herd immunity just isn't a solution to our pandemic woes. Yes, it may eventually happen anyway, but hoping that it will save us all is just not realistic. The time to discuss herd immunity is when we have a vaccine developed, and not one second earlier, because at that point we will be able to really stop the epidemic in its tracks.
Until we have a vaccine, anyone talking about herd immunity as a preventative strategy for COVID-19 is simply wrong. Fortunately, there are other ways of preventing infections from spreading, which all boil down to avoiding people who are sick.
So stay home, stay safe, and practice physical distancing as much as possible.
Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz is an epidemiologist working in chronic disease in Sydney, Australia. He writes a regular health blog covering science communication, public health, and what that new study you've read about actually means.
Opinions expressed in this article don't necessarily reflect the views of ScienceAlert editorial staff.

A birthday message from the Blogger himself.

Just checking in...
With two teenage girls and no school or Disneyland or Knotts or... anything... we seem to be holding up.

With a few clear but cold days I was able to get some yard work done - lots of leaves to be shredded and moved around and I had my Dad's tiller to make quick work of getting that mulch dug into the clay.  Growing food - tomatoes, sunflowers, pumpkins, carrots, basil and oregano are sprouting right now.  Victory Garden part 2...

The girls will be out of school until May, but checking in online daily.  The hardest part is convincing them that they need to keep a schedule and maintain regularity.  Sleeping in and PJs all day are very appealing to teenagers.  Appealing to old guys too, but I must resist the temptation.  I can already feel some extra pounds piling on.  My goal next week is to have them outside and online - we have the technology - we can do it.

jc

Quick update:

Topped off the gas tank (BTW, the price was a crazy low $2.69) and got some plants and seeds for the new garden.

Carrots and zucchini to start off with, may order more varieties later today.

Thinking long term and mid term at this point.

jc

More shower thoughts

Not only is this a black swan event, but it is a godzilla sized black swan.

Thinking even more about raising chickens, changing some of the yard to farm, and hunkering down.

Not sure how the lockdown will effect us, but I know in advance that my kids future has been trashed.

Thanks China.

jc

How California is doomed, and COVID-19 killed it.


A list of shower thoughts...
  • AB-5... those workers (Doordash, Uber, etc.) are going to be the unsung heroes of this and California stands adamantly in the way of their work.
  • Water restrictions... haven't heard much from you guys on this, but with people having to cook, clean, and stay at home, 55 gallons a day may prove unworkable. 
  • I am thinking of growing food instead of flowers - so xeroscaping (Orange County) with cactus just won't cut it.
  • Reusable bags are like germ aircraft carriers - who the hell knows when (or if) they have ever been cleaned.  I know that I have never cleaned one.
  • Plastic forks, spoons, knives, straws - almost outlawed but now they may literally be lifesaving.
  • High density housing - now a thing here as a 'cure' for high home prices and homelessness.  Can you say germ factories?  One cough can infect an entire floor, one dirty elevator can infect an entire building.
  • Mass transit (and not the high-speed train) - again, no social separation possible, just think of them as tubes of germs.
  • Homeless - so much here, but I now think of them as roving factories of virus production. 
  • Releasing of those in jail - 'justice involved individuals' now have a free ticket for the duration, and it will get ugly.
  • School age kids (mine are HS junior and soph) will get a dose of home schooling, and that may end up hurting public school attendance.
  • State budget - they tried to get so many bonds passed and it failed... luckily.  Pension costs never went away, though. With the income tax revenue taking a hit, how long before more taxes, more bonds, more squeezing of the middle class before they flee for cheaper lands?
  • Unemployment - how long before those temporarily furloughed turns into unemployment in the long term?
  • On-shoring will be a thing, but California has such a lousy business environment that it will happen out of state.  Coding jobs won't be in huge demand.  
  • California feel good food regulations - eggs as an example - add cost and time and bureaucracy that slows speedy and efficient food production.  Farmers are over regulated and under watered.
I know I will have more later, but feel free to add on...



It isn't about helping you, it is about controlling you.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/04/uk-national-health-service-to-deny-treatment-for-racist-or-sexist-language-gestures-behaviour/

They just want you to fall in line...

UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’

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Isabel Infantes/AFP
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A National Health Service (NHS) trust has announced that it will withdraw treatment from patients it deems to be racist or sexist.

The North Bristol NHS Trust announced that patients will be subject a “sports-style disciplinary yellow card and then final red card in which treatment would be withdrawn as soon as is safe” on its official website.
The policy would cover not just “Threatening and offensive language” but also “Racist or sexist language, gestures or behaviour” more generally, as well as “malicious allegations” — a rather troubling caveat, given the NHS has in the past been entangled in large-scale malpractice scandals which hospitals and staff have initially denied.
“We have staff from many different backgrounds, from all over the world, and we pride ourselves on our commitment to equality which is a fundamental value of the NHS,” commented Andrea Young, Chief Executive for North Bristol NHS Trust.
“We’re sending a strong signal that any racism or discrimination is completely unacceptable – we want staff to challenge and report it and we want everyone to know that it will have consequences.”
How low the bar for deeming behaviour discriminatory and sufficiently “offensive” to withdraw treatment is not spelled out in explicit terms.
For example, in late 2017 an NHS patient who requested a female nurse to carry out a cervical smear complained when the hospital sent a person with “an obviously male appearance… close-cropped hair, a male facial appearance and voice, large number of tattoos and facial stubble” who insisted “My gender is not male. I’m a transsexual”.
It is not clear whether the patient could have fallen foul of the Bristol policy had it been in place and the nurse had chosen to take offence — and nor is it clear how far the trust’s assurances that it will only withdraw treatment once clinically safe extend, and if patients could, for example, be denied diagnostic procedures or so-called routine operations such as hip replacements, for which many patients have to wait eight months or more.
British state authorities have previously proved somewhat overzealous in their enforcement of political correctness, with foster parents caring for three “not indigenous White British” children having them taken away by Labour-run Rotherham Borough Council in 2012 because they were members of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), then led by Nigel Farage.
Strategic Director of Children and Young People’s Services Joyce Thacker said she was concerned that UKIP was opposed to mass immigration and the “active promotion of multiculturalism”, meaning UKIP members could not meet non-British children’s “cultural and ethnic needs”.
Another NHS trust for the area, the University Hospitals Bristol NHS Foundation Trust, has previously been criticised for ordering the removal of the British flag from security staff stab vests after someone complained that the country’s national banner was “offensive”.

Borrowed time...

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/multiple-myeloma/detection-diagnosis-staging/survival-rates.html

Survival Rates by Stage for Multiple Myeloma

Survival rates tell you what percentage of people with the same type and stage of cancer are still alive a certain amount of time (usually 5 years) after they were diagnosed. They can’t tell you how long you will live, but they may help give you a better understanding about how likely it is that your treatment will be successful. Some people will want to know the survival rates for their cancer, and some people won’t.

What is a 5-year survival rate?

Statistics on the outlook for a certain type of cancer are often given as 5-year survival rates. The 5-year survival rate is the percentage of people who live at least 5 years after being diagnosed with cancer. For example, a 5-year survival rate of 90% means that an estimated 90 out of 100 people who have that cancer are still alive 5 years after being diagnosed. Keep in mind, however, that many of these people live much longer than 5 years after diagnosis.
Remember that all survival rates are estimates – your outlook can vary based on a number of factors specific to you.

Survival rates don’t tell the whole story

Survival rates are often based on previous outcomes of large numbers of people who had the disease, but they can’t predict what will happen in any particular person’s case. There are a number of limitations to remember:
  • The numbers below are among the most current available. But to get 5-year survival rates, doctors have to look at people who were treated at least 5 years ago. As treatments are improving over time, people who are now being diagnosed with multiple myeloma may have a better outlook than these statistics show.
  • These statistics are based on when the cancer was first diagnosed. They do not apply to cancers that later come back or spread, for example.
  • The outlook for people with multiple myeloma varies by the stage (extent) of the cancer – in general, the survival rates are higher for people with earlier stage cancers. But other factors can also affect a person’s outlook, such as their age and overall health, and how well the cancer responds to treatment. The outlook for each person is specific to his or her circumstances.
Your doctor can tell you how these numbers apply to you.

Survival rates for multiple myeloma

Remember, these survival rates are only estimates – they can’t predict what will happen to any individual person. We understand that these statistics can be confusing and may lead you to have more questions. Talk to your doctor to better understand your specific situation.
The numbers below are the approximate median survival using the Revised International Staging System of just over 3,000 myeloma patients treated between 2005 and 2012. These survival times are measured from the point that treatment, such as chemotherapy, first started. Since 2000 the percent of patients living five years after diagnosis has been increasing. Treatment since then has improved considerably and modern survival results are likely to be better.
Revised International Staging System
    Median Survival
      Stage I
        Has not been reached
          Stage II
            83 months
              Stage III
                43 months